Words: Stuart Maconie, Photograph: Ed Sirrs
Taken from the New Musical Express, 21 September 1991
Pulp
have waited a very long time to become overnight
sensations with their space age disco anthem
'Countdown', but in a world of footwear-fixated fops,
things can only get mulch, mulch better, reckons a
platform-shod, glitter ball-toting Stuart Maconie.
"Basically, all our songs are about either girls or space.
Most of them are about girls but there are one or two about
space. The advantage in writing about space is nobody knows
about it. Nobody can say the songs are wrong... unless it
was Neil Armstrong reviewing us. Then I suppose he might say
'You lot know nothing about space. I've been there and it's
nowt like that'."
Pulp are... well, now you're asking something. Pulp are
from Sheffield for one, although singer Jarvis and bass
player Steve are now decamped in the foul air of the
capital. Drummer Nick made his move too, but returned to
Sheffield because "l just couldn't get decent television
reception in London. l tried sticking a broom handle out of
the window with the aerial taped to it but it was still
rubbish."
This fact tells you more about Pulp than a million
discussions about guitar tuners and influences ever could.
On the other hand, Pulp's least favourite adjective is
'whacky', closely followed by 'kitsch', and you can't blame
them. But then neither can you blame the legion of
journalists who take refuge in those
stock descriptions when faced with a group who hang things
from fishing line on stage, fill the stage with
silver-sprayed footballs and make records that exist
somewhere in the terra incognito, nay, the
freaky triangle whose points are House music, Englebert
Humperdinck and the 1969 Bleep & Booster Annual.
Pulp may not be whacky, but they are certainly not
Swervedriver.
"You're all into this 'shoe-gazing' stuff aren't you?
Doesn't seem too interesting to me, I have to say. Is there
something particularly fascinating about their shoes?"
Come to mention it, they're not as fascinating as yours.
Jarvis' shoes are sort of burgundy semi-platforms with
square toe-ends and scruffy bits. Pulp are very much their
own men where fashion is concerned. Life for them is an
endless quest for Bri-Nylon.
Jarvis: "I like the idea that Bri-Nylon was going to be the
fabric of the future. This fantastic, durable stuff rather
than this rubbish that gave you a rash. The one-piece
Bri-Nylon never really took off in the way that the makers
of Space 1999 thought it would. That's because in
Space 1999 no one ever got an embarrassing stain on
their groin where they hadn't quite shaken their thing
properly."
Pulp are a band with an eye on the future. They cite 'the
future' as one of the prime influences on their archly naive
glitter pop. But first, the past. Pulp have been around for
the best part of a decade, struggling to master their
instruments, struggling to not be normal, and watching bands
much duller than themselves achieve fame with music not half
as rampantly gaudy as their space-age disco.
After some time dormant, Pulp returned earlier this year
with the extraordinary 'My Legendary Girlfriend', a single
that set all the NME fops alight with its grid
references to Scott Walker and Donna Summer. Add to this a
series of funny, free-spirited, extravert gigs and suddenly
Pulp were back on the agenda again. Now they have a new
single out, 'Countdown', a taster for a semi-mythical, now
imminent album.
Pulp fit in practically nowhere. Nothing could be further
from Pulp's minds than swathes of incandescent guitar and
ecstatic drug bliss. And yet they believe that their time
might well have come.
Steve: "We seem to be getting a lot of young people at gigs
at the moment. I'm not sure why but it's very nice. Nice to
see the young 'uns enjoying themselves. I think times might
be changing in our favour. I think people want a bit of fun
and a bit of glamour again."
Jarvis: "I quite enjoy being the object of young people's
affection. They come along for a bit of guidance, a bit of
advice in these difficult times. Actually, they come with
their parents. They say to them 'Hey, these are great aren't
they?' and their mums and dads say 'Oh aye, they were great
when we saw 'em at the Leadmill in 1982!'
One aspect of fame is less palatable, however, as Nick
points out.
"We've started getting these people coming up after gigs
saying 'Hey, I think we're doing something very similar to
you. Give us your number 'cos we're trying to set up a kind
of co-operative network for local bands'. Get stuffed! I'm
not giving my number to some squat punk with a dog on a bit
of string!"
Pulp shows are not the sad line-up of dopey posh kids with
centre-partings that passes for entertainment these days.
Pulp spend gig days assembling cheap but effective home-made
stage designs and preparing their finely tuned repartee.
Yes, Pulp talk between numbers!
Nick "Well, you ought to talk between numbers. It's common
politeness, if you don't you're just being ignorant.
Besides, if they think the group's crap, at least they can
think 'Never mind. At least there'll be some funny talking
in a bit'."
Pulp think interviews are for talking about 'interesting
things', not for discussing what their songs are about, I
tell them that people pay good money to buy glossy magazines
in which such matters are discussed.
"Yeah, but those sort of people should be in Rampton,
shouldn't they?" remarks Steve with icy callousness. So,
Pulp, one of the funniest groups I have ever met, prefer to
talk about the Danish Netto's supermarket chain, currently
wowing the north with their extra-low prices. "One white
sliced loaf and three tins of beans for 83 pence: You can't
argue with those sort of prices."
So why don't you write a song about them, eh? I am met with
three hard stares.
"Because that would be whacky."
Point taken. Eh, kids?